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. >> it was the will of the house to do nothing? on thursday night, the members of the elected house of representatives decided it would you describe not their will to take a vote on their own leadership's proposal. it would have exempted the first million dollars of income from a tax increase. there was no chance of being passed into law as the president made clear he would veto it. if the speaker's plan b passed the democrat controlled senate. this was a republican proposal. house democrats would not have supported it. democrats couldn't agree to vote on it. instead, they walked out and went home for the holidays. forget about bipartisanship, this house couldn't achieve partisanship. as the speaker explained it, his fellow republicans wouldn't vote on the proposal because they didn't want to be perceived as tax raisers. now, the speaker is at a loss. >> many of us believe on both sides of the aisle, the tax code will help us get our economy working faster and put more americans back to work and more americans with tax rules. how we get there, god only knows. >> god only knows? mr. speaker, you're supposed to
that just got walloped in the election. can you expound on your theory there? >> first, let me just talk about democrats. you're too young to remember this, ari, but there was a period of time when people were wondering -- >> i dyed my hair, john. >> people were wondering when democrats could ever win a presidential election again, that's because they were on the wrong side of main street america, on some cultural change happening in the country. they were on the wrong side of issues like the death penalty, on issues like the use of force in foreign affairs, and it wasn't until they'd gotten whacked, george mcgovern lost overwhelmingly, mike ducacas was beaten pretty soundly. after all those things happened, the democratic party through bill clinton and others like him trying to change it, made the party more acceptable to the american people. republicans have not gotten there yet. it was a party as we saw in the election, a declining -- white share of the vote is the declining share of the electorate. their share is going up, but not enough to compensate. >> right. >> right now the sort
at some of the most memorable presidential moments of this election year. >>> president obama and senate members will be here in washington tomorrow, but we'll be hearing crickets on the house floor. nbc news has learned the republican leadership has not given representatives the 48-hour notice to return to work, another sign of inaction on the fiscal cliff front. joining me now for our daily fix, mr. jonathan capehart, msnbc contributor and "washington post" editorial writer. jonathan, we're just six days away, no indication from house republicans that they are going to come back any time soon. the leadership has gone mum on that. we know there's not been communication between boehner and mcconnell, obama and boehner. are you amazed with this short amount of time to go there seems to be no sense of urgency on either side? >> am i amazed, given what we went through with the debt ceiling, no, i'm not amazed. i think there are forces here in this town that would like for us, sure people would like for there to be a deal, but going over the cliff on january 1st when there's this notion wher
elected, he would have strained things much better than they are now. that is part of the problem. host: what -- caller: character, honesty. host: mitt romney is your choice. caller: that is about it. host: patrick is next. caller: my political hero is president obama. host: why so? caller: he has gone through a lot. he has kept his cool during the course of the year. i look forward to him doing better. host: one thing that stands out as far as his accomplishments. caller: bringing the end to osama bin laden. i think he has done very well. he has been patient and the adult for working with the republicans that tried to make everything for the country. host: president obama amongst others being listed this morning from the phones and facebook and twitter. after thestory passing of senator daniel in a the washington times." host: the code of hawaii -- the governor of hawaii possibly been the replacement for daniel inouye, reported by cbs news. picking up on the remaining time and before the next senate, comes in. president obama spoke on friday and talked about the senator's service and h
-term unemployed are not their problem. in fact, this country was founded on the principle that we elect a congress to make it their problem, to make it their concern and to go out and do something about it. >> john nichols, you and your family have a great christmas. great to have you with us here tonight. >> and to you as well. >> i'm going to be taking a few days off next week. you bet, my friend. michael eric dyson will be doing the show. we'll be having a wonderful christmas at the schultz household. my wife wendy has finished her chemotherapy. she is on the road to recovery, or should i say she is cured. we are so thankful. it's been a rough six months. but we are together, and that is the main thing. this is "the ed show" for for this year. i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> a merry, merry, merry, merry christmas to you. you guys have had a hell of a year. >> thanks, rachel. you have a merry christmas. >> thank you. and thanks to you at home for joining us tonight. ahead of this holiday weekend, on a day when the world of news didn't slow down for the holiday weeke
to be re-elected. >> that's right. they're going to need a lot of power going forward to get lngs through. >> we heard this on friday, we heard it on sunday from lapierre. he was using the terms "good guys" fairly frequently. does that positive association he's making with police officers, of those who are trained using gun, using the terms "good guys" is that what we expect to hear for all those who are opponents of gun legislation going forward? >> i think so. i think that will be part of the conversation. but, you know, this will be a really difficult battle on capitol hill, especially in the house but also in the senate. we see a lot of democrats up nor reelection in two years from more rural states so it might be difficult for them as well to fully embrace some of the issues being talked about or some of the policies going forward. so much we might see this in little bits of legislation. >> i was reading a number over 50% of those of the 113th who were put into office receive money from the nra. that would make things very difficult i would imagine as they are of course thinking abou
for the next congress. that happens on january 3rd, when they formally elect a speaker. that's one theory, but probably the thing that make the most sense is the fact that then it becomes a vote to cut taxes for 98% of americans, instead of allowing them to rise for 1% or 2%. that is something logically the republicans would probably or more likely go along with, though at this point who knows where we'll end up with on this thing. january 3rd is the new congress. in the days after that, that's the inertia it scenario. >> gentlemen, thanks so that. i appreciate it. >>> we want to bring in today's panel s perry bacon, democratic strategy margie omero, and chip saltzmann. i want to talk about with what steve la tourette had to say today being interviewed on cnn. >> this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government not willing to make the deal they know they have to make. everybody wants to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is go
to compromise and give and sacrifice and act responsibly than their elected representatives are. there's a mismatch right now between how everybody else is thinking about these problems. democrats and republicans. outside of this town and how folks are operating here. we've just got to get that aligned. nobody can get a hundred percent of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. >> david corn, that is the eference to moments ago. that's what i hear on a day-to-day basis. people are critical on the rs and the ds and say my god, why can't they be adults and hash out a deal here? >> the real issue is republy lan house members. not even republican senators. he's doing what he often does, he's being soft on the opposition at this point in time. he also mentioned he was talking to john boehner. i think he still has some faith here -- or hope. so in a statement today, he didn't really whack boehner at all. he didn't make the distinction between democrats and republicans and just attacked the vague congress. but at the end of
family had learned to stop talking about the election, or stop talking altogether, we get another awkward announcement. this time it's tag romney. the oldest of the five romney boys that tells the "boston globe" that his father never wanted to be president that much anyway. funny thing is most of the voters felt the same way. let's bring in jonathan capehart and susan delpersio. i've got to start with you, sorry girl. here's what tag romney tells the "boston globe" about his dad. quote, he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. as a republican, you must be thrilled to hear that. no? >> i think this quote -- as a strategist i think this falls on the category of when family members and friends try to help and make a story look better in which case it kind of backfires. because the truth is you don't do what mitt romney did. he's run for governor, he's run before. you don't do this unless you wanted it more than anything else. however, if it was really the case and he needed to be persuaded to run, that
. >>> and new reports the tea party process was imploding, imploding well before election day. including an attempt with dick armey getting aimed. >>> plus we'll have the top viral videos of 2012 including this one. >> we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> actually, that's samuel l. jackson, he's a nice fella personally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. he really is a nice guy. >>> former president george h.w. bush took a turn for the over and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> actually, that's samuel l. jackson, he's a nice fella personally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. he really is a nice guy. >>> former president george h.w. bush took a turn for the worse over christmas eve. doctors say they are cautiously optimistic the 88-year-old will recover. we wish him well. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." boston globe reporting michael kranish has written why r
's not a fight between the two parties. it is a breakdown inside one of the two parties wherein their own elected leadership not only isn't in charge of their own side, their own elected leadership doesn't even know who is on their side. i mean, in terms of the serenity prayer, john boehner and eric cantor do not have the wisdom to know the difference. mathematically speaking. >> do you think you have the votes to pass plan b among republicans? >> yes. we're going to have the votes to pass both the tax -- permanent tax relief bill, as well as the spending reduction account. >> i am not convinced at all that when the bill passes the house today, that it will die in the senate. >> you know, the bill never got to the senate because it never passed the house because it turns out you guys didn't have the votes to pass it in the house. and the most important thing here is that you thought you did. you counted wrong. you thought you had the votes and you didn't. you did not know that you were going to lose that vote on your own legislation because of the votes of your own side. you didn't know you were
say more things are on the table than were before the election. the pessimist would say yeah, but there still isn't the substance of an agreement. >> the mechanics, i mean, what we have -- on the obama side, you have an election that pretty much, you know, they took as a mandate, if you will, where, you know, the very issue of taxes was sort of legislative, and the americans basically said they agreed with the president, saying that taxes need to rise on the wealthy. and then you have the right wing of the republican party who won also by wide margins in many deeply conservative districts. and they think they have a mandate. so in a way, it's like the two mandates are canceling each other out. they each think that they are -- and that is why we're frozen. i don't know if it's been that way -- i don't know if the mechanics have been such that it has been so polarized to the point where it's been paralyzing. >> where they feel like they've each won. >> it doesn't baffle me, it sort of angers me is that the conservative republicans who won by overwhelming margins in their distri
're "outfront" with an arizona sheriff who's backing that plan. >>> and the 2012 election was all about viral videos, tonight we're counting down our favorite political video of the year. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm john avalon in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a stark warning from capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid says we're all headed for fiscal disaster. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left before the first of the year, aren't here. >> we're now told the house will finally return to work on sunday. now, that's december 30th. in other words, less than 48 hours before we go over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, president obama cut his hawaii vacation short to return to washington today. but has he been working on a deal? "outfront" tonight, reports from both ends of pennsylvania avenue. chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin, and senior congressional correspondent, dana bash. jessica, first, to you, the president's back in washington, wheels down. he le
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weeks after his unanimous re-election aas speaker he faced a mini mutiny in his own congress. they said they would oppose his backup plan to keep tax cuts in place. the speaker saw the setback as a see mantic problem. >> listen, there was a perception created that that vote last night was going to increase taxes. now, i disagree with that characterization of the bill, but that impression was out there. now, we had a number of our members who just really didn't want to be perceived as having to raise taxes. that was the real issue. >> with that the speaker pulled his plan b from the house floor, told the president and senate democrats they needed to come up with something to avoid the fiscal cliff, and then he took off for ohio with a parting blast at the president that went off to hawaii. >> and he refuses to challenge the members of his party to deal honestly with the entitlement reform and the big issues facing our nation. that's why we find ourselves here today. >> the holiday season is beginning to seem a lot more like groundhog day. bh he we return, long-time boehner ally and fello
and forth between republicans and democrats sounds like we're still having an election that it never was over. i think that now -- now that we've had an election, and the american public has spoken, whatever they meant, it's time for the politicians to get together, come together as starbucks is saying, and get something done. nobody's going to get everything they want. but it's so much more important to solve the problem than for one side or the other to get what they want or blame the other. the atmosphere is just wrong. >> when you hear the argument for going over the cliff. when it's been told to me by both democrats and republicans, by actually some republicans as well, they say that it would be easier to get a deal after january 1st, because taxes will go up, and anything they do is a big tax cut. do you think that's right? do you think that we just need to wait this out and then it will happen quickly? >> no, i think if we do go over the cliff or down the slope, that there will be every reason to get it done quickly. people will be horrified at what's happened. but i don't thi
is a horrible thing that people can spend and waste this amount of money on elections. think of all the people that could be benefit -- could benefit from that money. >> there have been two elections since i've been in america. there have been two elections where one party has had far more financial power than the other. one was here in california with meg whitman, and one was nationally. romney clearly had more money than obama for most of that campaign, and in both cases, the one with the most money lost. >> isn't that great? >> what does that tell you about the american people? >> the people are getting smarter. they're going, i don't like all this amount of money spent on this election. campaign finance reform is very important, and i hope somebody does something about it. you should have a given amount, equal amount, equal air time, and that's it. that idea of corporations being people. no, no, it's not -- this is a country of, by, and for the people, not of, by, and for the corporation. you know, it's like -- because i'm so against gmos, the modified food, and i'm so against lobbying by
and responsibility to send our elected officials a potent message urging them to come together. poppy harlow recently sat down with schultz. tell us more about what starbucks is trying to do here. >> the timing is certainly spot on, joe, right, as congress comes back in session from the holidays tomorrow. if it they go to starbucks, they'll get the message loud and clear from their barista. this will be will d.c., is this parts of virginia. they will voluntarily where "come together" to urge politicians to get a deal done on the fiscal cliff before the end of the year. and i wasn't very surprised because howard schultz has been very outspoken. we sat down earlier this month to talk about the fiscal cliff and the risks to u.s. businesses, to the world economy and to the average u.s. citizen if we don't have a deal, if we don't get it done. i want you to take a listen to what he fold me. >> the real difference today versus perhaps any other time in history is that this single issue has a seismic effect on the rest of the world, that we have never been as connected and the domino effect of a bad outcome
or 150 democrats. that's what -- that's what our constituents think they are electing us to do, go work in a bipartisan basis. but because of the rules of the house, speaker boehner just keeps saying i'm ignoring the democrats. i'm going to try to put together a plan that will appeal just to republicans. and that's where he's -- that's where he is running into this brick wall. >> all right. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >>> here's one take on the fiscal cliff. john boehner's animal house. we are bogey to talk to "the washington post" writer who says in boehner's house the animals are rampaging. what's that mean? we will have an answer for you in the next half hour. >>> nasty weather is lingering just before christmas. aaa predicts 93 million of us will be traveling long distances over the holidays. that includes those that are flying. with a hello to you. how is it looking out there? not too bad in terms of traffic behind you. >> that's exactly right. good afternoon. it isn't too bad. here chilly but sunny and no problems to report in atlanta. most major airports throug
mandate of re-election and the fact he ran on raising taxes if he was given a second term, why is there such this stalemate and trepidation in washington, d.c. to get a deal done? >> reporter: how many hours do we have? let me try it this way. there's a group of hard core tea party republicans but democrats say we won because as your poll shows most americans support the president's position on higher taxes on top earners and seemingly at this point about leverage rather than compromise, and frankly, a reluctance on both sides to have the first set of fingerprints on significant spending cuts, whether it's defense ovr entitlement program. >> thank you. and merry christmas to you and your team there. >> merry christmas to you guys. >> thank you. >>> in terms of politics and a deal, wyoming senator says he thinks that the white house want it is country to go over the fiscal cliff to give the president leverage. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the clip for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the clif
are very, very clear throughout this election and in polling as well. do not cut social security, medicare and medicaid. you have the situation with republicans saying hey, we don't think billionaires should pay a nickel more in taxes, but we think there should be cuts in programs impacting working families who are already hurting. that's the problem we have. >> let's talk about one of the programs, unemployment insurance. it seems that the administration believes that it is very much a catalyst for growth and has a stimulating effect. house republicans would probably never bring it up as a freestanding bill, but it's not part of some large scale or small scale agreement now. how much do you think unemployment will be part of a final deal. will it have to be part of a deal to get your support? >> absolutely. we are in the midst of this recession and real terms, almost 15% of our people are unemployed or underemployed. you take a look at that unemployment check for people who are looking at it, it will cause real suffering for families. it is an economic stimulus. you put money into the han
. the opposition is also gearing up for parliamentary elections, which are supposed to take place within two months. in previous elections we saw the opposition unorganized and divided. this time they say they have a unified front to put as many as possible in the new parliament to change the constitution. while we see it unford, there's an economic crisis. egypt's economy is in dire straits, and the muslim brotherhood and islamic allies need you to unite with the option if they push through tough austerity measures which are fairly unpopular. the two sides don't seem like they're going to unite anytime soon, at least not until the parliamentary election. the economy just has to wait. ian lee, cnn, cairo. >>> in india protesters demand more protection for women. this is after a brutal rape aboard a bus. we'll talk with a woman that lived in new delhi and knows the dangers for women on public transportation. and a choice.with artn take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. has oats that can help low
saying you tried to get the president not to be re-elected. you failed in that effort. he said you don't have the clout that you had politically in this town in past debates. >> the american people, i know one thing about them, they value their freedom. when the reality of the consequences of what the politicians in this town and the media and elites want to do to their rights and take them away, i think they'll do what they've done historically, defend the freedom. the american public knows the scene of the crime, it's a criminal and a victim. all these politicians aren't there. they see people like mayor bloomberg, new york city, if you're rich and you're famous you get your permit, if you're a .300 hitter with the mets, you get a permit, a big developer, you get a permit, wall street executive, you get a permit, the mayor's buddy, you get your permit. if you're a guy in the bronx, most in need of protection, you're flat out of luck. we're about the average guy, the noncelebrity, the non .300 hitter. we're about the nondeveloper. the average guy in the country values his freedom, doe
is one of 17 american presidents to be elected to a second term, and yet we really understand now in some respects the illusions of the power of the second term president. to have another nominee, perhaps the president's preferred candidate for the pentagon, secretary of defense, premptively challenged is remarkable and extraordinary. one other point that needs to be made regardless of who becomes secretary of defense, barack obama is most withholding president since richard nixon. there's no question about that. all power on the consequential issues of war and peace, afghanistan, iraq, the war on terror, big think strategy in iran, the israeli palestinian peace process, during his first term came in and out of the white house. secretary clinton, we'll never know whether she could be a consequential great secretary of state because the presidential essentially dominates. he does not delegate. and the reality is both at state and defense, the interesting question will be it seems to me on whether or not in the second term the president will allow his national security team to actually help
presidential candidate mitt romney. >> this election is over. but our principles endure. >> romney ran on his impressive business credentials but it was his multiple gaffes during the campaign that analysts say helped seal his fate. remember the 47% comments. >> 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government. >> and this one -- >> binders full of women. >> number six, ex-cia director general david petraeus. >> breaking news now coming in regarding the chief of the cia, general david petraeus. >> general petraeus, can you talk with us, please? >> the news was unexpected. the reason, shocking. petraeus, a retired four-star general, had quit his cia post and admitted he had cheated on his wife. petraeus' mistress was also his biographer, paula broadwell, an embarrassing exit from the public stage by one of the most respected public servants of his time. >> number five, super jumper felix bum gartner. let's face it, he did what no human has ever done, diving 24 miles from the edge of space, breaking the sound barrier along the way. >> i'm still the same guy. but as soon as you start trav
-watched y youtube video of all time. number. 7, presidential candidate mitt romney. >> this election is over, but our principles endure. >> romney ran on his business credentials but it was his multiple gaffes during the campaign that analysts said sealed his fate. remember the 47% comments -- >> 47s we% who were with him. >> and this one. >> binders full of women. >> number 6, ex-cia director general david petraeus. >> breaking news regarding the chief of the cia. general david petraeus. >> can you talk with us please? >> the news was unexpected. the reason, shocking. petraeus, a retired four-star general, had quit his cia post and admitted he had cheated on his wife. petraeus's mistress was also his biographer, paula broadwell. >> and don't touch that remote. there's more. we're going to show you who you picked as the top five most intriguing people of 2012. that's coming up next right after the break. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's gluc
the american public what they want. what's not clear is exactly what should be coming out from the election. the president very clearly has been saying his bargaining power should have been increased and they should win some concessions from reps. we have not seen the answer yet. i don't think we will until we see a resolution to the fiscal cliff. >> we're just seeing more and more moving parts, aren't we, in the beltway? thank you both. stick around we'll get back to you in a bit. >>> senator mike crapo was arrested over the weekend. he ran a red light, then failed several sobriety tests. officers say he was cooperative and released on a boon. he quickly released a statement apologizing for the incident. >>> coming up for you, the tough road to the pentagon. former senator chuck hagel facing cry sim. and doubt from both sides of the aisle. >> i'd have to study his report. i'm not going to comment until the president make a nomination. >>> plus we're following breaking news. two firefighters shot to death, as they respond to a fire. the latest of that, coming up. when you have diabetes... y
was somehow rooted in the press buyas or elected officials who have gun-free school zones. you know, judy, the reality is, and it's a terrible reality, since robert kennedy died in the ambassador hotel on june 4th, 1968, more americans have died from gunfire than died in all the war, all the wars of this country's history, from the revolutionary to the civil war, world war i, world war ii, and those 43 years. we have half the guns 245 are in the world are in the united states. i mean guns are a problem. and i think they still have to be confronted. >> woodruff: something like 280 million guns. >> we're to the going to get rid of all those guns. that's to the going to happen. >> daniel patrick moynihan and tax ammunition. >> i think there are a series of reasonable things we could do, even going back to the 1990s when it comes to ammunition, magazine size, and the sought-- certain types of semiautomatic weapons. you should be able to make that case. we swung so far in this debate in the libertarian direction, that those are fairly minimal burdens on anyone's rights when it comes to this. i
clout. what the nra does so well is organize and motivate their people to get out in elections. arguing against what they do, you are arguing against democracy. we're in this fight together, instead of dwighting america, let's come together for a change. we can. >> i want to talk a little more about the proposal that wayne la pierre made too put armed police officers in schools. it's gotten tepid support from republicans and that's probably an understatement. listen to john boraso yesterday. >> i think decisions about schools ought to be made at the local level. i would not want a national effort to say you have to do this at schools. i think local education decisions are best made at the local level. >> so even the -- people who should be the biggest supporters of this ideas to not only put armed police officers in schools, but to fund it republicans in congress, they are hands off, what does that tell you? >> lots of ways we can approach these issues and it really requires a multidisciplinary approach. what works in an environment in new york city isn't going to work in rural america,
get a bill passed with that splits his republican caucus and puts in danger his re-election as speaker on january 3rd. kelly: that is a lot of talk going around in circles in washington right now. you're very optimistic something can be done but on the other hand there are several economist, juan, that predict indeed we'll go over the fiscal cliff and the inaction of congress has the potential of plunging the united states into another recession. that said, they can't afford to becoming a reality. >> so far they have been very fortunate that the markets have not reacted with panic. you have not seen any plunge on wall street and the like but once you go over the cliff, especially if it is not just a matter of a day or two to allow for a house vote, but if it is really the case that politicians here in washington are so dysfunctional, kelly, they can not get the people's business done, i think then you will see a market reaction that, as you describe it, could plunge the country back into recession and it is not just the united states. remember, we're the world leader in terms of so muc
. >> clayton: do you buy the charles krauthammer argument, the president was aware after the election he wanted to create a civil war in the republican party and to charles point he did that? >> yes, i think this obviously was to drive a wedge between the house conservative republicans and house capitulationist republicans and of course between the senate republicans and the house republicans. when the ball is in harry reid's court this is not a good thing for conservatives and what's going to happen now between today and tomorrow is, if you've got mitch mcconnell and harry reid sitting down, never a good thing and apparently, trying to come up with income tax thresholds, and if they don't come up with something, again, that wedge gets driven further and obama can sit in the cat bird's seat and blame, blame, blame republicans for their obstructionism. >> dave: quickly, you think a deal gets done, a threshold say around a half million dollars, unemployment gets extended and very little cuts, is that basically what you think happens here? >> i think that's right. i think that's the basic outline
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